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	<title>Comments on: Martha Rosler, Carey Young at the Whitechapel Gallery</title>
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		<title>By: Re-Enactment of Meat Joy at Bilateral</title>
		<link>http://www.lucazoid.com/bilateral/martha-rosler-carey-young-at-the-whitechapel-gallery/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Re-Enactment of Meat Joy at Bilateral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] SHORT HISTORY OF PERFORMANCE AT THE WHITECHAPEL GALLERY IN LONDON - SEE MY REPORTS FROM WORKS BY MARTHA ROSLER AND CAREY YOUNG, ROBERT MORRIS, ANDREA FRASER, JOSEPH BEUYS, THE ATLAS GROUP AND MARK DION, AND INVENTORY. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] SHORT HISTORY OF PERFORMANCE AT THE WHITECHAPEL GALLERY IN LONDON &#8211; SEE MY REPORTS FROM WORKS BY MARTHA ROSLER AND CAREY YOUNG, ROBERT MORRIS, ANDREA FRASER, JOSEPH BEUYS, THE ATLAS GROUP AND MARK DION, AND INVENTORY. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2004 06:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point taken, MR.

By the way, a friend in Sydney made a remark that I had been a bit harsh in these final sentences in my notes about Martha Rosler:

&quot;(but really, why DID you call her a throwback, forgotten &amp; outdated?)&quot;

here is my response to that question:

I did think, once I realised that other people (besides me) were starting to read the blog, that I should actually look at how what I had written might come across.

I should be more clear about Rosler in that last paragraph.

To be sure, I fuckin love her politics.

What I really meant to say was that, in contrast to the zap and zizz of Carey Young -(whose project, I thought, beyond slick &quot;presentation&quot;, was a bit thin (as you can see from my notes in the blog itself)) - Martha Rosler seemed a bit ... tired? 

Or a bit disheartened ... as if *she herself* felt like a throwback to a forgotten and (considered to be) outdated way of working...(she may have even said this herself as part of her talk ).

Far from it: I think we have a lot to learn from her (especially my generation of artists (born in 1975), which has grown up with dwindling experience of unions and co-operation - its like we&#039;re having to learn it ourselves, rather than inherit and grow with it)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point taken, MR.</p>
<p>By the way, a friend in Sydney made a remark that I had been a bit harsh in these final sentences in my notes about Martha Rosler:</p>
<p>&#8220;(but really, why DID you call her a throwback, forgotten &#038; outdated?)&#8221;</p>
<p>here is my response to that question:</p>
<p>I did think, once I realised that other people (besides me) were starting to read the blog, that I should actually look at how what I had written might come across.</p>
<p>I should be more clear about Rosler in that last paragraph.</p>
<p>To be sure, I fuckin love her politics.</p>
<p>What I really meant to say was that, in contrast to the zap and zizz of Carey Young -(whose project, I thought, beyond slick &#8220;presentation&#8221;, was a bit thin (as you can see from my notes in the blog itself)) &#8211; Martha Rosler seemed a bit &#8230; tired? </p>
<p>Or a bit disheartened &#8230; as if *she herself* felt like a throwback to a forgotten and (considered to be) outdated way of working&#8230;(she may have even said this herself as part of her talk ).</p>
<p>Far from it: I think we have a lot to learn from her (especially my generation of artists (born in 1975), which has grown up with dwindling experience of unions and co-operation &#8211; its like we&#8217;re having to learn it ourselves, rather than inherit and grow with it)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MR</title>
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		<dc:creator>MR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 00:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i NEVER drone- i am a new yorker. we do not drone, we deliver with dead-pan irony, even when wit, like politics, is long forgotten</description>
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